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The Zimmer Emblyplicon 2018-02-26 16:00:40 Name one good Zimmer score since 2014 - even a semi decent one. Maxim Vlasov 2018-02-26 16:04:16 Interstellar! Edmund Meinerts 2018-02-26 16:09:37 Chappie. (More 'semi-decent' than 'good', but still) Otherwise I'd actually be forced to agree with you, it's been relatively slim pickings these past few years. Both in terms of the quality of the music and the lack of composing hours Hans has been putting in thanks to the tour.
Maxim Vlasov 2018-02-26 16:15:05 Also Winter's Tale! Mpolonest123 2018-02-26 16:23:55 Chappie/Kung Fu Panda 3/Hidden Figures Edmund Meinerts 2018-02-26 16:47:16 I guess the 'problem' with our listing these scores is that for a lot of them Hans played only a minor or supporting role.of the ones we've listed Chappie is the only one that feels to me like it's guided by his musical personality and even that has a lot of Mazzaro/Andrew K.
As for the others, Winter's Tale is largely an RGW score, KFP3 had Balfe/Mounsey do a lot of heavy lifting (albeit with a few strong solo Hans cues like 'Jaded') and Hidden Figures.well, I have no real idea what's up with Hidden Figures, but to my ears it's some combination of Wallfisch and Pharrell with Hans coming in a distant third. The last really personal-feeling score from Hans that was also actually good was indeed, for me, Interstellar. Mpolonest123 2018-02-26 17:07:58 I’ll even throw Woman in Gold in there, far more underrated than most people give it credit for. @Edmund That is true, but considering the concert tour it’s understandable that Hans took a backseat to the others. And, to be fair, this is something He has always done. Look at the 5-6 years where Lorne Balfe was basically what Wallfisch is now, especially with Sherlock/Inception/Megamind.
Edmund Meinerts 2018-02-26 17:34:53 True, but for all that Balfe did a huge amount of work on Sherlock and Inception (to the point that he's basically a co-composer, not just additional music), I still feel as though the general sound, atmosphere, direction, themes etc. Of those scores come from Hans' voice. They feel authentically 'his' in a way that KFP3 or Boss Baby or Hidden Figures don't.
And yeah, I realize it's largely because of the tour. And I'm glad he's touring! I got to see him myself and it was fantastic. But I'm also looking forward to him returning to full-time composition. Lol 2018-02-26 19:02:39 BvS (Complete) and Inferno are alright to listen to Ian 2018-02-26 21:51:19 @lol - I don't intend this as a personal attack at all, but IMHO Inferno is garbage; almost all of the best cues are reprises of existing themes, and there are.maybe.
ten minutes of good new material on the whole OST (I agree with Clemmensen at Filmtracks that Venice is a solid new cue and would have made for a much better model for the whole score than did the obnoxious synth stuff). And I say all of this as someone who adores DVC and A&D, and who has come to like Chappie; the former two scores are just vastly better in every way, and Chappie is stylistically similar to Inferno while being far more competently handled.
But yeah, I think BvS is an unduly vilified score, which actually shows Zimmer at something near his best (at least if you throw out the sound design shit): big, heavily thematic, energetic etc. I think it's obvious he genuinely cared a lot about that film/score. Mpolonest123 2018-02-26 22:54:11 Inferno is disappointing not because it took a synth-heavy route, but because it brought nothing new to the table.
There is one theme established for a side character, and two underdeveloped motifs which don’t really do much overall. Everything else is a retread of the previous 2 scores, albeit done with sound design. BvS is probably the closest to Zimmer’s actual voice, and overall isn’t a bad score at all. Where it missed the mark for me personally was the lack of balance or interplay between Batman’s themes and Superman’s themes. Instead of pitting them against each other (not just thematically but tonally) everything seems to blend together. Even Superman’s main tune loses its hopeful style and becomes very downbeat (Day of the Dead) Mephariel 2018-02-27 00:31:06 'Name one good Zimmer score since 2014 - even a semi decent one.' Interstellar Blue Planet II Hidden Figures Kung Fu Panda 3 Chappie Freeheld The Boss Baby Blade Runner 2049 Nomolos 2018-02-27 03:18:52 @mpolonest I agree with your sentiment but I think it's unfair to call out 'Day of the Dead' from BvS as an example of Zimmer making Superman's theme lose hope, because that feels like more of the director's choice in that case as the scene it's used in showed a SUperman making sacrifices yet being chastised.
Mpolonest123 2018-02-27 03:31:47 I actually really love that cue, and the accompanying scene. And I do feel that it’s the films tone which set the mood for the score. Most likely a stylistic choice by Snyder. Still, I wish there had been a better way to incorporate elements of “Flight” and “What Are You Going.” into the fabric of the score. Lol 2018-02-27 05:17:56 Ian, for inferno, there's a ton of new shit that nobody even heard which had to do with a lot of extremely creative and inventive sound design for the 'hell' part of the score if you listen to the complete score or listen to unreleased cues in the film, you'll find some really interesting shit, and there's a ton of it unreleased.
The OST definitely didn't show off a lot of the new material, it had a lot of the re-reprisals. I think some of the new re-imagined 'God Save Us' stuff in The Cistern was good too.
MrZimmerFan 2018-02-27 12:19:16 I have to say, Inferno is OK. There is much worse synth stuff out there than Inferno. And Chappie is decent, very decent. Edmund Meinerts 2018-02-27 13:48:19 Interstellar was 2014, name scores since then that are in any way decent.
Boss Baby, FreeHeld, Kung Fu Panda 3 (not exactly HZ is it?) were all last year. Which one is a highlight in HZ's career? Is that not a bit of a decline from the days of Gladiator and Mission Impossible 2 (2000) or The Thin Red Line and Prince of Egypt (1998)? Edmund Meinerts 2018-02-27 15:01:46 ^ that's not me. In what universe is Mission Imposssible II a highlight of HZ's career, anyways?:p iii 2018-02-27 17:23:13 Mission Impossible 2 has one cue everyone likes. The rest is very forgettable. 'They feel authentically 'his' in a way that KFP3 or Boss Baby or Hidden Figures don't.'
Edmund you make points articulately but this is one argument I don't understand. Sure, Boss Baby and Hidden Figures sound like a mix of composers - a mix of composers are credited. BB doesn't sound like anyone in particular apart from Hans' jazzy main theme, which recalls Megamind and The Critic, and the Conrad Pope cue which sounds like Conrad Pope.
It's a lot of parody material. I must've been the only one who correctly noted Hans' voice in KFP3 before it was, shock horror, revealed that the credited composer wrote his own score.
Edmund Meinerts 2018-02-27 17:44:26 I don't know about the 'it doesn't sound like anyone because it's parody' argument because John Powell has written tons of parody scores that still sound unmistakably like John Powell scores. That's what a good film composer does, be versatile but still have their own voice.
Hans can do it too, or how else would you have two scores that sound as different as, say, The Peacemaker and As Good as it Gets (in the same year, even!) where you can immediately hear that they're both by Hans? I don't know. The ghostwriter issue blurs things a bit which is why you have a score like Inception that feels very personal and very Hansish despite being damn near co-composed by Lorne Balfe, but all I can say is that to these ears, there's not much Hans in these scores we've been discussing (no, not even in KFP3 outside of a handful of cues). Mpolonest123 2018-02-27 18:27:11 @Edmund I get what you are saying but look at it like this: just because a cue is done by a co-composer/ghostwriter doesn’t necessarily mean Hans had no involvement in said cue.
The best example is Pirates, where they had multiple people working on individual cues. From what info Hybrid and others have put out there, it seems like Hans is involved in practically everything from beginning to end. Even if it isn’t writing the cue, I’m sure he “directs” it. Or, in some cases, cues that are almost completely derived from the suites (Interstellar, Inception) Also don’t forget, Dunkirk was mostly Hans. Mike (OTM) 2018-02-27 19:14:00 @mpolonest123, great point. I agree with Edmund, broadly, but yeah, do remember that Hans starts a cue in most cases, or continues a cue that a ghostwriter started and they work on it back and forth while one of them gets some sleep.
Hans doesn't just write themes, do four cues solo, then go on vacation the rest of the time. He's writing during the whole process. And yes, despite the big interview stuff about Ben doing Variation 15, Dunkirk was 95% Hans.
The cuesheet is mostly just him. Replies: 2 2018-02-26 15:48:06. I'm giving this one a listen after a long while. Man, it's a shame the movie was as thrown together as it was, because this was a really fresh and interesting score for Hans. It's fun, it's colorful, it's got a broad range of sounds, the main theme is an upbeat fanfare.
I wish he would write superhero scores like this more often! It really goes to show that Hans writes for the movie that's in front of him, with the direction the director asks for. Hans said he 'didn't know how' to write a theme like the one we got here, at first, but Marc Webb asked for a fanfare, so Hans gave him one. I wish more directors would give Hans movies to push him out of 'brooding and/or 'sound design' zone. Cause he really makes good music when the movie lets him. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Mike 2016-04-13 15:33:30 The Interstellar page here on this site will tell you how that happened.;) Hybrid Soldier got in touch with Zimmer and with Chris Craker (or whatever the album producer's name was), and that, presumably coupled with all the social media outcry AND the negative reviews people were giving the album on Amazon, prompted them to 'do something' about it.
Quite nice of them, really. It wasn't the film version, but the fact that they tried to make the fans happy and were willing to do that was cool.
As for 'Rest of My Life'. What we have is what we get, I think. Unless the film version were an official 'alternate' on the complete score (like the film version of 'Flight' from Man of Steel), then we'll have to make the best of fan's efforts to isolate the music from the film. Unfortunately, most edits like that - No Time For Caution, Rest of My Life, Batman Chased - stay in the editing vaults of the studio and are never made 'tangible' for everybody to have. Anonymous 2016-04-13 15:46:04 Thanks for the reply, Mike.
Well, everything you say makes sense, I suppose. Mpolonest123 2016-04-14 05:23:15 Out of curiosity; Would going back and adding extra, unreleased music to a digital album be costly? Think something like Apple Music. I know there isn't a high demand for 'complete scores' outside of the score community but it would be pretty cool to see some of the albums expanded upon (looking at you TASM2/SH2). Does anyone have any insight into licensing/re-use fees for digital releases? Hybrid Soldier 2016-04-14 10:36:19 I don't think it would be costy but Spidey is one of the worst selling album of HZ ever, so I stop you right away about any expension or any bonus thing.
Lol mpolonest123 2016-04-14 14:28:58 Wow, I never knew that album tanked. That's a shame given the quality.
Oh well, I guess it's just back to waiting for recording sessions lol Ds 2016-04-14 14:50:38 It'd be interesting is such information was available somewhere for general public. Really wondering what are the top ones, for instance. And the worst ones:-p Brent 2016-04-14 15:45:14 Ds, that would be very interesting indeed. I'm guessing Gladiator, The Lion King and Pirates have to be near the top, right?:) Mike 2016-04-14 16:43:55 Spidey got low sales? Hybrid Soldier 2016-04-15 01:13:20 Yes it did, surprisingly. HZ told me, I think he knows.
Lol Anonymous 2016-04-15 11:08:25 Not suprised. It sounded horrible. Too much vocals. Too much synth probably samples put a lot of people off purchasing it Mike 2016-04-15 16:53:03 Huh. Even if you dislike the music, this one is way better as an album than A LOT of HZ scores I could think of that were badly presented.
Especially from around 2010-2012. Replies: 0 2016-03-19 16:35:30. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Edmund Meinerts 2016-02-22 13:07:57 If they don't even keep themes across movies with the same version of the character, what makes you think they will on yet another unnecessary reboot? 2016-02-22 16:04:39 Well HZ is a big name and it's not a bad thing to have his name on your movie. Also, he happens to be a great composer so no loss. If he wants to do it, the studio won't object. Ggctuk 2016-02-23 09:45:22 Big name though Zimmer might be, it's more likely to be somebody already in with the MCU.
I'd personaly like Danny Elfman to take the score and see how he would write a new Spider-Man theme. Edmund Meinerts 2016-02-23 12:02:47 I don't like the idea of Elfman for the same reason I don't like Zimmer on Bat vs Supes - one composer doing two versions of the same character is just weird to me.
I don't even like that they're rebooting Spidey.AGAIN.so I don't care too much who they get. But I think Powell would be a perfect choice. (Then again, when don't I?). 2016-02-23 12:41:40 Hans didn't write the new batman theme but I get your point! I was one of the people who actually liked the new spider man. I think Andrew Garfield was really good and even though the second movie was a bit unfocused, it was still enjoyable.
I really liked both the scores and really hoped to hear a sequel score by Hans. They should just get Hans to do it! The theme really fits the character so well! Macejko 2016-02-23 17:59:06 Marvel already managed to alienate pretty much every major composer working today, so I wouldn't be surprised if they went with some easily managable newcomer. Or James Newton Howard, which is my personal bet. I think he could actually be a great fit for Spidey, if only he remembered his Disney roots. I don't want a return of Hans' theme.
Strange as it may seem, I'm actually one of the few people who really, really dislikes his (well, 'his') TASM2 score. And as for Powell. It ain't happening, ever. He is by no means gonna take Marvel's bullshit, although I'd actually truly like to hear his take on Spider-Man. IMHO one of these people will be the next Spider-Man composer: James Newton Howard, Steve Jablonsky, Bear McCreary, or John Debney.
Brent 2016-02-23 20:42:47 My bet is Jablonsky. He was actually attached to do TASM2 if I remember correctly. But, John Debney could be interesting. Ds 2016-02-23 21:43:47 Could be Henry Jackman as well since he's starting his run with Marvel.
Mpolonest123 2016-02-23 21:49:35 Jackman is pretty versatile so I would be curious to see how he would tackle Spidey. Especially if he could pull out something like Kingsman. Edmund Meinerts 2016-02-24 00:30:02 Yeah, I know Powell WON'T do Spidey, but I think he'd be great at it. He has the humor, the style and the perfect ability to do upbeat heroic superhero-type music with a bit of a modern twist.
I don't want something super classic orchestral like Williams' Superman for Spidey, neither do I want the modern self-serious Zimmer/JXL style - something in between is what he needs, and Powell would be fantastic for that! Bear McCreary would be super cool as well.
But we should all just wait and see who's directing the thing. Ei18 2016-02-24 01:22:34 Jon Watts is directing the new film The Pale King 2016-02-24 04:06:29 I'd say it's pretty solidly anyone's game.
If Henry Jackman can compose something half as good as his themes for Kingsman and ESPECIALLY for Kick-Ass, I'd be all for it. I could easily see them going for someone like Bear McCreary, Brian Tyler, or John Debney, since they've all contributed to the MCU before. Christophe Beck could also be added to that shortlist, I suppose. My picks, personally, would be either for Carter Burwell (who was supposed to be involved with Thor: The Dark World, but dropped out due to creative differences), or Mark Mothersbaugh, who's basically my top choice. I'd say Steve Jablonsky and ESPECIALLY Zimmer and / or Junkie are pretty unlikely, though, all things considered. Ggctuk 2016-02-24 12:28:09 Debney did additional music for the Raimi films, so I wouldn't say no. I'd personally like Christopher Young back though: I loved his Spider-Man 3 music and I would love to see him come up with a new theme.
Replies: 1 2015-12-27 02:35:17. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Russel 2015-07-30 07:04:07 Yeah, Sony has them.
Ggctuk 2015-07-30 08:42:27 So do the hackers. Good luck finding them though. Anonymous 2015-07-30 21:13:09 What ever happened to them?
Nothing happened when The Interview released. Ggctuk 2015-07-30 22:22:33 Eh, basically they said 'Release the Interview, but ever do anything like that again and you'll be sorry.'
Russel 2015-07-30 23:04:36 I never heard or saw any proof of that. Ggctuk 2015-07-30 23:50:11 A bit more expanded, they said that Sony had suffered enough and that they could release The Interview, so long as they didn't make Kim Jong Un's death 'too happy' and so long as they weren't tested again, because they would be ready for the fight. A conflicting message was sent to Sony privately, telling them to remove all mentions of the movie. It's pretty well-documented. Anonymous 2015-08-12 10:16:40 Word in the street is someone is selling TASM2 sessions for 500 pounds. So maybe someone is willing to sell it and someone who has the money can buy it.we'll wait and see.I'm aching to hear the sessions though. Hybrid Soldier 2015-08-12 10:35:47 Fake stuff are being sold, I'm told.
Lol ggctuk 2015-08-12 12:10:44 Of course there's fakes floating around. There's quite a few prolific fakers out there who like to pass off DVD rip-laden scores as the real thing. My advice for anybody who's even contemplating buying something like this - aside from 'don't do it' - is to ask for a sample from a cue you know couldn't possibly be cleanly ripped from the DVD. Zaralyth 2015-08-12 21:55:16 I exchanged emails with a month with the guy who is selling TASM2 and SH2 for 500 euroes each, but when it came down to asking for sampels, he never got back to me. Reac63 2015-08-27 15:37:54 I have two question,please answer them Music that play when electro died isnt in album? And where I can find that music?,its veryyy niceee answer pleaseeeee ggctuk 2015-08-27 21:51:00 Nope. It's not there.
You'll find it in the film, buried in the SFX and dialogue of the scene. It's not cleanly available. Maybe if the recording sessions ever leak out, you'll get it, but until then, no, it's not available.
Replies: 17 2015-06-23 10:39:11. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 trent easton navarro 2015-06-23 11:13:35 Very sad.
It was Horner, together with Goldsmith and Zimmer, that got me into film music in the mid 90's. Edmund Meinerts 2015-06-23 11:20:50 And you're an asshole. Seriously - could you be any more blunt and unfeeling about it? Horner was killed in a plane crash - he was piloting the aircraft himself and was the only person on board.
At least he was doing something he loved. This is a horrifying, crippling loss for film music. If it had been Williams, Morricone.it would still have been tragic, of course, but it wouldn't have been a shock. Both of them have such long and fruitful careers behind them. Horner still had so much to give the film music world. His career was nowhere near done. He was just 61.he could have composed for at least another two decades.
It seems heartless to mourn the loss of his music, in lieu of mourning the loss of the man. But the music WAS the man. No other composer was able to wear his heart on his sleeves via his music with quite the same directness as Horner.
His was a unique gift, and it will be sorely, sorely missed. In many ways, the fiercely traditional Horner was the antithesis to what Hans Zimmer and Remote Control stand for in film music.nevertheless, I'm sure we can find common ground here in acknowledging what a loss this is. Zimson 2015-06-23 13:00:19 I'm completely shocked!
He was one of most important Hollywood composers of all time. I think I've listened to braveheart like a 100 times. Thanks Edmund. That was really uplifting. We should put a picture of him on top of the website in memoriam. Horner-Fan 2015-06-23 15:49:58 This is so sad! We lost one of the best composers!And the only thing some people can think of is to call someone 'asshole'.shame on you!
Edmund Meinerts 2015-06-23 16:01:12 Only thing some people can think of? Did you not read the rest of my post?
Mrrea 2015-06-23 16:05:43 I know horner wasn't part of rcp but it would be nice to honor him on the home page maybe? Would be nice. RIP James Horner. Your music will forever remain printed on mine and many many other people's minds as long as we live!
RealFfingMusic 2015-06-23 16:18:32 Edmund's first comment made me sing Avatar, stupidly hoping James Horner would come back in a 10-feet tall blue body. Mark 2015-06-23 16:38:01 Edmund, I agree with you totally. Horner's music was truly consistently beautiful and uniquely recognizable and most certainly as you said it was 'the antithesis of what HZ and RCP stands for.'
We'll just leave it at that so all the drones can read whatever they want into that comment. This is a huge loss for the film music world as Horner (IMHO) was one of the top 3 composers. My sincere condolences to his family. Garavel 2015-06-23 20:56:52 Please complete score. Frenchans 2015-06-23 22:58:54 James Horner.A huge loss for the cinema (especially for James Cameron)! Titanic, Braveheart, Troy, Avatar, Legends of the Fall.Anyway, a legend.
Boldizar 2015-06-24 02:47:14 What does this have to do with Spider-Man, other than the being 'shocked' references? Thejok3rrules 2015-06-24 06:00:26 He scored the first TASM, good reason enough for you?
A great loss indeed, may he rest in peace. RealFfingMusic 2015-06-24 12:24:00 @Hybrid, Horner's pic on top looks like he's part of the documentary. TurdMaster3000 2015-06-24 12:34:08 To add on to Horner's relevance to the films discussed, it was really a shame that he wound up skipping out on ASM2 due to feeling that the sequel was turning out poorly. I found Zimmer's work to be surprisingly decent and far less broody and simple than what some people expected, but it was still a great wish of mine to have seen what Horner would have produced for the movie. In the first film, he had established a sort of love/family theme that had a bit of a tragic overtone to it, and it would have undoubtedly been built off of and made all the more beautiful and heart numbing for a certain pivotal moment in this installment.
Additionally, the amount of room for heroic fanfares and grandiose pieces would have been much wider after moving past the first movie's more restrained and grounded atmosphere, so hearing more fun and action packed Spidey material would have been very welcomed as well. Hybrid Soldier 2015-06-24 12:37:33 Guys, I'm not in charge of the banners.:P Anonymous 2015-06-24 19:11:30 Huh??? It's your website isn't it?? Hybrid Soldier 2015-06-24 22:38:49 Content, not technic!!!:) Replies: 0 2015-06-15 23:33:26. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 theeaglesfan005 2015-03-28 00:06:37 It's not Marvel rebooting it.
It's technically Sony But now that Marvel Studios has some control there hopefully won't be any more reboots after Avengers ggctuk 2015-03-28 10:40:56 Actually, this time it IS Marvel rebooting it. It was Sony who rebooted it before.
The reason a third film is not being made is because it seems the current style would not fit in with Marvel's films very well: Marvel wants creative control over the character and story and you can't get that with two previous films. Sony, of course, will still have final say, but I can't see them objecting to what Marvel might do. This is not a bad thing.
Sony haven't exactly grasped the opportunities of the license. Marvel can and most likely will if their version is a success (which it will be) - they could have Miles Morales, Venom, Spider-Girl, Scarlet Spider. All manner of things in a 'miniverse' that extends into the Avengers films. Sony have been struggling to do that since Spider-Man 3. Replies: 0 2015-03-27 17:53:40. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Hybrid Soldier 2015-03-22 12:03:40 First I guess it'll depend on who's gonna direct.
Have no idea, I wouldn't bet on that though. Ggctuk 2015-03-22 23:44:25 I think it's likely to be Brian Tyler or Danny Elfman, personally, as Tyler's their go-to guy and Elfman ATM is providing additional music but has a history with Spidey. Hybrid Soldier 2015-03-23 08:42:03 I doubt Disney would hire Tyler again after the Avengers 2 case. 2015-03-23 09:39:53 Yea. I think he'll return for thor 3 as he did the second one, but that'll be the last one he'll score for marvel.
Bro 2015-03-23 12:43:21 What did he do wrong on Avengers 2? I wasn't around for the drama Mike 2015-03-23 14:32:39 I'm not sure specifically, but we know Marvel eventually got Danny Elfman to write (rewrite?) additional music for Avengers 2, and in one interview Tyler said something to the effect of, 'The studio executives sometimes want my music to be just barely present in the background, but I always like things front and center.'
So it sounds like there's some creative differences, for sure. Mpolonest123 2015-03-23 14:49:38 Danny elfman mentioned in an interview that his job was to incorporate Silvestri's theme in some scenes.
Maybe Tyler didn't want to use it all? Mike 2015-03-23 15:00:42 Oh, really?
So they are using Silvestri's theme, then? That's exciting! Continuity FTW!
Mpolonest123 2015-03-23 15:13:00 I really hope so! The last thing these Marvel films is less continuity. I'm just worried Brian Tyler was trying to force a new theme instead of following Silvestri. And here's the quote from Elfman; 'I was doing the same thing actually just last week because I’ve contributed music to the new Avengers movie. I took part of Alan Silvestri’s theme on the original movie, which I really liked, and I pulled it into it new theme, which became kind of a hybrid.
I really enjoyed that.' Replies: 0 2015-03-03 22:35:35. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 greg 2015-02-26 17:22:21 I dont know either and i dont know why people here didnt complain about missing tracks like they did with interstellar. Im sure hybryd could ask zimmer to give some.
Mike 2015-02-26 17:37:32 With all the complaints even after No Time For Caution came out, I don't think Hybrid wants to ask Zimmer for anything.lol. But I do recall Hybrid saying that Zimmer himself had mentioned putting out some 'leftovers' from this score as downloadable tracks. Ggctuk 2015-02-26 22:58:11 I wouldn't mind having the stems from the Electro Suite, personally. John 2015-02-27 00:24:09 If I could have at least two unreleased cues.It would be 'The Flying Montage' and 'I Can't Lose You Too'. Mike 2015-02-27 15:30:03 Oh, and to resurrect the typical film version vs original cue issue, I'd also love the film version of The Rest of My Life.so much more moving than the album version IMO. Though I do understand that the album was already put together by the time they altered it. Replies: 6 2015-02-15 18:04:35.
Your name: Please enter number: 1218 billy 2015-02-16 18:21:59 I agree with you. I love Harry's theme suite, it's really nice! The only thing that's wrong with it is the character it's been written for!! Lol mpolonest123 2015-02-17 01:09:04 Haha I agree, although I still don't think the film as a whole was that bad actually billy 2015-02-17 09:12:27 Me too. And I'm sad that we may not see Andrew Garfield again in this role ggctuk 2015-02-17 11:41:33 There's no 'may not'.
Marvel's already looking for a new character. And on top of that, it does seem unlikely they'll hire Hans Zimmer.
They're more likely to hire Brian Tyler as he's their go-to composer right now. I wonder if LaLaLand would be interested in releasing a more complete version of this score. Ggctuk 2015-02-17 11:42:24 Did I say character? I meant actor. Mpolonest123 2015-02-17 15:13:40 If there were any issues with the film, it most likely had to do with studio tampering. I am happy to see Spidey being integrated into the MCU, however. And don't forget, Sinister Six hasn't been cancelled yet.
If it does happen we might get a kickass stand alone. (And maybe even a score from Zimmer or co.) Replies: 1 2015-01-19 06:01:44. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-22 13:41:29 Well posting this won't get you far, it's resulting from the Sony hacking.
Those files haven't leaked anyway, and probably won't anytime soon. Theeaglesfan005 2014-12-22 15:17:36 what the hell does the LC mean? Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-22 15:21:09 It's the film codename.
Loneranger 2014-12-22 17:19:55 Dude share,share,share. I want complete score Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-22 17:35:13 He's got nothing. Lol loneranger 2014-12-22 19:18:17 o.O ggctuk 2014-12-22 22:50:56 Given the extent, I would say it is a fairly safe bet these hackers DID obtain sessions files (they have listed.zip files that would correspond in size to the music in compressed format). However, they have NOT publicly shared them. I doubt they are even aware of their worth.
And with Sony having caved in to their demands, I doubt we'll see anything posted from them, unless Sony crosses the line they have set up. Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-22 22:57:14 They do have the files, no need to be a genius to understand that.
And the 'worth', well, for 99% of the human population these things are worthless, especially for hackers like that who only care about email passwords or social security numbers. If this Sony case blows completely they might end up throwing the files to the trashbin. Anonymous 2014-12-22 23:02:40 It is rather interesting to note that none of these files have a HZ acronym next to them. Oh, and LC stands for London Calling, which, as Hybrid Soldier put it, was the code name of the film. Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-22 23:07:51 Well it means nothing the files have SJL, who is Steven Lipson, the music mixer. Bro 2014-12-22 23:52:03 you should realize that the 32 gb file of everything obtained in the hack is available to the public and is shared on several torrent sites im sure you can find the session files yourselves Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-22 23:53:38 Trust me, it's not.
They 'put out' only a little of what they got. Anonymous 2014-12-23 00:01:22 I thought LC stood for 'Little Cock', in reference to Andrew Garfield Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-23 00:14:17 Right. You just earned a role in the next Adam Sandler film. Bro 2014-12-23 04:04:06 last time you told us to trust you, it was when you said 'Imperfect Lock' would have the docking cue lol. Anonymous 2014-12-23 04:21:27 Sir Leigh Teabing said it best from Da Vinci Code: 'The French cannot be trusted'! Russel 2014-12-23 06:01:10 I can stand up for Hybrid and say no sessions are in any of the SPE leaks, at all. There are 9 total so far.
Smitty 2014-12-23 10:10:27 It's interesting how Hybrid is reacting here very nervous ^^ again a session which he have and is getting maybe leaked? Oh nooo.;) Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-23 10:29:06 No no I'm not nervous I want this thing out actually.;) I'm just pissed at people posting tracklists for no purpose, without explaining why or what. Throw this to people's face without context. Smitty 2014-12-23 10:31:00 ok, buddy, it just looked like that and i started actually having then a good feeling that this things comes out soon x) Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-23 11:49:40 Well who knows. I actually tried to make this cue list match with the cuesheet, though without the music itself it's difficult to be entirely sure lol. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-05 08:50:22 People stop thinking cuesheet availability on publishing websites & music leaks have anything in common, you'll do yourself a big favor. Ggctuk 2014-12-05 18:24:26 Didn't Hybrid say he got those titles by doing BMI and ASCAP searches?
BMI and ASCAP are just lists with many, many cue titles from many many films on them, and more of course. Absolutely no relation to any leaking whatsoever. Anonymous 2014-12-13 05:24:56 I really hope it leaks soon though!! I love this score!!
It'd be a great Christmas gift;) Replies: 23 2014-12-09 19:54:47. Your name: Please enter number: 1218 Scorefan 2014-12-09 20:08:47 But it's not a surprise, he did the same thing with Yared's Troy. But i read in another interview Horner was not happy to score TASM1, he did it just to know how bad or good it would be, but for the second he rejected to write the score again. Even, i remember Horner was not the first choice to score TASM1.
Ds 2014-12-09 20:23:24 I read the same as Scorefan. I didn't know Marc Webb even asked Horner to do the 2nd movie.
I think it is rather weird. Since when is Hans Zimmer a 'second choice' after another composer rejected your movie?? And NM I personally think TASM2 is by far superior to most of the crap Marvel Studios (I mean Disney-Marvel) has produced, like the first Captain America or both awful Thor movies. At least it had some cool visual style and an awesome soundtrack (something Disney-Marvel movies never had).
Mike 2014-12-09 20:31:08 'Since when is Hans Zimmer a 'second choice' after another composer rejected your movie??' According to Hybrid, Hans was the FIRST choice on TASM1 but said no due to The Dark Knight Rises.;) So this is just getting what Webb wanted to begin with. Mike 2014-12-09 20:35:24 Oh, whoops.That just happened.
Didn't see the 'I didn't know Marc Webb even asked Horner to do the 2nd movie'. So Zimmer was indeed a 'second choice', even if he was the first choice originally.
NM 2014-12-09 20:52:53 @DS The only Superhero film I've seen recently that was worse than 'Spiderman 2' was ironically 'Man of Steel'! Both suffer the same problems - empty characters, dumb story, shit unwatachable videogame fight sequences.
They're just LCD crud, and they're not even fun with it. Ds 2014-12-10 00:03:35 Well NM then I just guess we have opposite tastes regarding superheros. Man of Steel was one of my fav movies of last year, and probably my fav superhero movie along with The Dark Knight. A bit dark, powerful and majestic, just what I like.
RealFfingMusic 2014-12-10 04:14:25 @Ds, my thoughts exactly. The biggest faults with MOS, IMO, is that it seemed like entire scenes and sequences had gone missing from the entire film, resulting in the hole-y story. @NM, not to be nitpicky, but 'Spiderman 2' was made in 2004, and it was magnificent. (Got to be careful with reboots and remakes.) Macejko 2014-12-10 09:23:08 TASM2 is a horrendous, dreadful piece of sh.t and easily the worst movie of this year and probably even the last one. I haven't seen anything this bad since Battleship and I'm pretty sure Hans did it just for the money. I sincerely can't imagine him finding any redeeming qualities in that abomination of a movie, especially since he scored Interstellar the same year.
After all, it shows. Interstellar score is a magical and piece of music, whereas TASM2. I think part of the reason of using the chanting in the Electro's theme was to somewhat clarify his motivation, because the character was written so horribly (as every single one in that movie). Seriously, Hans is a intelligent, thinking person, we all know that. There is simply no way he would NOT despise that movie for what it is. No freakin' way.
(And MoS was awesome, which is exactly why Hans did it with just a little help. Wheareas TASM2. Wait, I already made my point.) Macejko 2014-12-10 09:24:42.Interstellar is a magical and UNIQUE piece of music, I meant to say:) Edmund Meinerts 2014-12-10 12:17:36 I liked Spidey 2 more than Man of Steel. At least it had a sense of fun.
It's not a good movie but I'm not sure why people talk about it like it's Batman and Robin or something. Ggctuk 2014-12-10 20:17:41 I personally see the movie as being potentially good but ruined by corporate interference, much like the first one. I'd be very surprised if Webb doesn't walk out completely (he's already not directing TASM3 if it happens). The best thing that can happen is for the rights to revert to Marvel. Ds 2014-12-10 23:51:51 Edmund, 'at least it had a sense of fun'. I've heard people complaining a lot about Man Of Steel being too serious and not fun, but frankly since when is this a criterion?
Is 12 Years A Slave also a bad movie, since it's not fun at all? Mike 2014-12-11 00:28:32 My objection to MoS wasn't about 'fun', personally. It was a serious movie, for better or for worse. We can only expect the composer to score the movie he has in front of him. I do wish the score had had a somewhat greater sense of heroism, though.Ever notice how during the fight scenes, it was pretty much all Zod/evil Kryptonian music?
Why couldn't they have imbued the fight scenes with some full statements of Superman's theme (and not just the pleasant-but-repetitive motif from the beginning of 'Flight')? Sure, maybe that was the music's way of saying the Kryptonians are really the ones in charge against an unexperienced Superman, but a lot of it was too 'one-sided' in my opinion.
Or, as awesome as the 'Escape From Ship' cue was, why couldn't they have a big and grandiose statement of Superman's theme (like 'What Are You Going.' ) for when Superman shoots down into the atmosphere to save Lois? NM 2014-12-11 01:09:13 The main problem with Man Of Steel isn't the lack of fun, though it is a joyless film. It's the fact it's incoherent. Thejok3rrules 2014-12-11 06:45:57 ggctuk, are you serious? The best thing for this franchise is to stay with Sony.
Marvel has produced so many films lately, some of them are good, some are so-so, but they are so generic it's ridculous. You don't feel anything about them, it's cool action and that's where it ends. The TASM series may have its problems, and there's a good bunch of them, but the human interactions in these movies are exceptionnally real, thanks to Marc Webb, whom you feel directed the movie.
The acting is top-notch too. If either Webb or Sony ever drops the project for Marvel to take over, I feel the third one will be your usual cheezy Marvel film. Edmund Meinerts 2014-12-11 10:00:03 I wasn't talking about the score, Mike - I know Zimmer had to score what was put in front of him, and I know the relentless gloomy dreariness of the score is down to the relentless gloomy dreariness of the film. But it was the latter I was criticizing. It works for Batman because that character is already very dark - and those films still manage to be fun in a way despite all that.
The same approach fell flat for Superman, IMO. 12 Years a Slave is a WILDLY different film with WILDLY different ambitions, Ds.
You really can't compare the two. But given the choice between the two, I'd rewatch Django Unchained a hundred times before I watched 12YAS again.because it's fun.;) ggctuk 2014-12-11 11:22:34 They're already hawking a new trilogy anyway. Those leaked memos reveal that Sony is bitterly disappointed with the way the films have turned out and is ready to field Marvel a deal that will see Marvel produce the films and Sony distribute them. Marvel isn't likely to drop what is working fine. Hybrid Soldier 2014-12-11 12:31:38 Man Of Steel is dark? I don't find anything 'dark' in it.
NM 2014-12-11 18:05:06 I don't think Man of Steel is particularly 'dark' it's just a joyless, boring film to watch. It comes across like it's taking itself seriously, and that's not a problem at all - but, if you do that, you have to deliver the goods. It didn't deliver. The dialogue, editing, direction (though surprisingly good acting to be fair). It was nearly all remarkably terrible, from start to finish. It's got all the worst bits of Nolan films (stupid militaristic characters, clunky dialogue, confusing editing et al.) with all the worst bits of Synder (incoherent action, emphasis on 'cool' moments rather than story).
It's still one of the worst films I've seen in the last few years, and I actually regret parting with my hard-earned money for it when I could've gone to see 'Before Midnight' and supported good cinema. I don't know if I'd apply the same criticism to the music though.
I listened to the score before I saw the film, and while there is gloom, and there is action bashing, I could actually imagine the ideas in there - of looking in, a sort of alien kind of sound, the hope etc. The soundtrack album is actually far more interesting and balanced than the film! To give the film some bit of credit, I think they probably did have some ideas to start with. So perhaps the film is a failure of execution, rather than of imagination. But, boy the final product is a mess, half an unwatchable videogame cutscene, half a bunch of confusing messy exposition.
Ds 2014-12-11 18:25:19 Personally I liked the direction, editing, 'emphasis on cool moments', music, story, in fact this movie gave me everything I'm looking for when I'm watching a superhero movie. I think you just didn't like the movie at all, but your points are opinion, not facts. And saying it's the worst movie you've ever seen. I hate when people call such big movies 'the worst movie all-time'. Come on, hundreds of people (some of them are among the best in the industry) are working very hard on these movies, don't tell me everyone of them delivered shit. You should watch more Belgian or French movies where there's absolutely NOTHING good, and then speak about 'the worst movie of all-time'. Scorefan 2014-12-11 20:00:01 i liked both, Man Of Steel And TASM2.
Man of Steel is a complete change from Christopher Reeve´s Movies and from Bryan Singer version. Snyder version continue the line that Nolan made with the batman trilogy, more realistic and a serious tone. For TASM2, i had not seen TASM1. It´s a light version from Raimi´s version. Raimi´s version had a serious tone while Webb´s version is more.light. NM 2014-12-12 00:57:15 'but your points are opinion, not facts.' So are yours, and everyone else's.
This retort always bugs me a little. I don't really see why I should have to preface everything with 'in my opinion'. It's.clearly. my opinion. 'And saying it's the worst movie you've ever seen.' If you can point to where I said that, that'd be good.
' Come on, hundreds of people (some of them are among the best in the industry) are working very hard on these movies, don't tell me everyone of them delivered shit. ' I think the movie's shit. I don't think people intentionally set out to make bad movies, sometimes movies just end up being bad.
It's not a sleight on them personally. I never set out to write bad music, but I'm aware I've written plenty of shit. T-Mann036 2014-12-12 08:04:50 To each his own, NM.